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Sunday, April 28, 302 AP
Web posted at 1544 UST.
Charles Frank: Piers K'nossa is the leader of the Pataki Communist Party, and Interior Secretary of the semi-autonomous Pataki Peoples' State, and he is here, agreeing to an interview with us to discuss the situation in Rovens and in Castronovia.
Firstly, Mr K'nossa, thank you for your time ("you're welcome"). Can we start with your comments to journalists on Wednesday, repeated in the National Assembly on Thursday. ("Certainly") You say the situation in Rovens is "appallingly laughable". Could you explain further?
Certainly. Let me firstly say that anything I say, in almost any context, will be taken
in the worst possible light. I have not in my statements, belittled the suffering of the people
of Rovens. This is clear from my statement. It IS appalling, and I have repeatedly called on
the people of the nation to rise up and take the government into their own hands.
The situation is ridiculous. You have a country paralysed because the bankers, landowners and capitalists have withdrawn their capital, and they now hold the entire nation to ransom. Prices decline daily, and land becomes so cheap for the capitalists to buy up and profit from. They have millions of people wandering about unemployed, so that when the capitalists return with their money, the people will be malleable.
What is particularly sad, particularly amusing in a dark way is that they possess the power to solve this situation without having to rely on the capitalists.
How can this be achieved?
They have some three million people wandering around without enough work. They have factories standing idle without enough to do. Why? Why doesn't the government just get them working? Why wait for the capitalists to tell them to make things, when they know what the country needs, what the people need. They need jobs. Give them jobs.
But the country is in need of development funding, isn't it? They can't invent jobs from thin air?
Of course they can, the state provides them. And funding? For what? To pay for those things that they already have. They will use the money to pay wages for workers already standing idle, and for materials that the factories already produce.
And this is the painful tragedy of what I see. I see a country able to provide work for all its people and all its factories, and yet the government, indeed the workers wait for the capitalists to tell them what to produce. We, in the Party, can see this, and we shout it from the hill-tops to tell the people, but no one in the government can see it.
Wait-a-minute, you're saying the country does NOT need funding to build the roads the factories and the industry that will provide the jobs?
That is correct.
Let me make this simple. The country needs alarm clocks, yes? Then make the steel needed to make the clocks, and fashion the tools needed to make the gears that go into the clock, and make the glass that...-
Alright, but how does the state pay for all this?
For what?
Wages, for example. Or the steel they need from overseas?
Yes, but the people already make steel here, don't they?
But, someone needs to pay them to make it?
Ah, I see your difficulty, if I might say so.
(Laughter) Alright. Tell me?
This is the trap of the capitalists again, reintroducing money. This value we place on paper is the root of capitalism, because as soon as we believe in paper, we stop believing in the truth that workers make steel, not money. We stop believing the truth that workers build factories, not capitalists.
And once we lose sight of this truth, we are their slaves. They can withdraw their money and we watch our economies fall apart, as it has in Rovens. This is deeply distressing for those of us who can see the truth that workers, not money, makes an economy.
These are lies, nothing more than lies.
Alright, but how would your government pay people to work without this paper? Surely a communist-lead government would still need to pay people?
Well, here you speak of two different things; one a communist-lead government and, two, a communist system. Under a communist system, there is no money.
How would people buy things?
They are supplied everything they need, and they are provided with coupons to "buy" the non-essential things, such as fashion clothing, um, alarm clocks, wall paper, whatever.
Under a communist-lead government, clearly we are still operating under the capitalist system, which we would ask the people to allow us to dismantle.
And, if they refuse?
Then, we would work as best we can with it. We would start the factories producing, and, to pay for it, the government would have to pay for it, through taxes.
Wouldn't the country need incredibly high taxes to replace investment funding? Wouldn't these stiffle further investment?
Perhaps, but if the government is providing the wages for the steel workers to produce steel, then we have no need for private investment.
CASTRONOVIA
Shall we move on to the next topic? Castronovia. Rumours abound that the PPA is involved there, that it has sent several hundred soldiers to help the new communist government establish itself. Care to comment?
No, I think I shall decline.
You wouldn't like to comment on the rumours that Castronovia is being 'propped up' by the Pataki Peoples' Army?
(Smirks) I think I will say this. The Castronovian people have liberated themselves, by their own strength without the need to rely on other communist movements around the world. This was a clear case of one people liberating themselves, with their own strength. And it is a most admirable sight.
The PPA will provide as much support as we can to the forming communist state, as one Peoples' liberation administrators to another.
So, the PPA is providing assistance to the Cimeran rebels. Is this assistance military in nature? Or strictly aid and administrative in nature?
(Smiles) I shall not go into details. This is best left to another time.
Mr K'nossa, thank you for your time; This has been most enlightening and fruitful.
You are most welcome. Thank you.
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